satyasaich
03-08 09:50 AM
I'm listening now and discussion is interesting
One needs Realplayer to listen to the hearings. But even then I only get a high pitched sound.
One needs Realplayer to listen to the hearings. But even then I only get a high pitched sound.
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ashutrip
06-21 02:12 PM
Relax Buddy , now that the bus has come they will keep coming .Most of the people will go in this bus. The dates will retrogress for some time and will be current maybe next year . If not this bus then the next bus . No use raising your blood pressure for this . Attorneys and the media have a habit of scaring people unnecessarily . This Current date is not the end of the world , so take a chill pill ..
thank you....not beeing sarcastic....I have been employed by a desi company for 6 years....you wont know what I m going thrujust on humorous note....where can I find one chill pill....I need it badly.....
thank you....not beeing sarcastic....I have been employed by a desi company for 6 years....you wont know what I m going thrujust on humorous note....where can I find one chill pill....I need it badly.....
ras
07-06 12:15 PM
I dont mean to say against the IV core's efforts. They are doing an amazing job with in their time limits.
But the issue is the time limit itself. There are 20K members dependent on the limited time of the IV Core. They can only see any change when these IV Core's limited time is put to use. And if for some reason IV core is engaged personal interests ( which cannot be denied because they have their personal life too) then valuable time goes wasted.
So the issue is the time spent on activities by the IV Core. We cannot force them to spend their lives on IV activities and at the same time cannot let down the IV member activities. So what is the best way. Get full time coordinators who can come up with strategies that can have real time implications.
Dont bash at me this is just my understanding of the situation.
But the issue is the time limit itself. There are 20K members dependent on the limited time of the IV Core. They can only see any change when these IV Core's limited time is put to use. And if for some reason IV core is engaged personal interests ( which cannot be denied because they have their personal life too) then valuable time goes wasted.
So the issue is the time spent on activities by the IV Core. We cannot force them to spend their lives on IV activities and at the same time cannot let down the IV member activities. So what is the best way. Get full time coordinators who can come up with strategies that can have real time implications.
Dont bash at me this is just my understanding of the situation.
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raj3078
09-28 06:48 PM
This is just Sad.....
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kartikiran
08-23 08:34 AM
So does this mean:
a) Less of EB1
b) Less of EB2- ROW
c) Less porting from EB3->EB2
If implemented may help the EB2-I/C backlog move faster. Probably USCIS's way of reducing the backlog!!
deepimpact, shame on you to think like this. This is just one more of example of how ignorant the immigrant community is about the ground realities of these law changes in the employment-based immigration rules which includes H1B, L1s, EB apps etc.
1. The neufield memo of Employer-employee relationship & giving not 3 years of H1B visas but in some cases depending on the contract 3 months of H1B visas.
2. The fee hikes of H1B & L1 visas.
3. Make EB1, EB2 etc more strict to make it almost impossible to get anymore EB2 apps approved. BTW there is nothing which stops them from issuing another memo to review all EB2/EB3 I-140 approval and revise the approvals & deny them if deemed necessary. What would you say then?
You completely missed the point. Put the events in chronological order and you will realize why IV Core insists on meeting lawmakers. Pretty soon, there will be no avenues even with a lot of legitimate experience for an immigrant unless they end up winning nobel prizes....sorry there are not many nobel prize winners in this world and I have not met one so far.
Anyway, hope others continue to meet the lawmakers leaving your EB2-EB3 divide to ask them for recapture and removal of country limits.
Peace.
a) Less of EB1
b) Less of EB2- ROW
c) Less porting from EB3->EB2
If implemented may help the EB2-I/C backlog move faster. Probably USCIS's way of reducing the backlog!!
deepimpact, shame on you to think like this. This is just one more of example of how ignorant the immigrant community is about the ground realities of these law changes in the employment-based immigration rules which includes H1B, L1s, EB apps etc.
1. The neufield memo of Employer-employee relationship & giving not 3 years of H1B visas but in some cases depending on the contract 3 months of H1B visas.
2. The fee hikes of H1B & L1 visas.
3. Make EB1, EB2 etc more strict to make it almost impossible to get anymore EB2 apps approved. BTW there is nothing which stops them from issuing another memo to review all EB2/EB3 I-140 approval and revise the approvals & deny them if deemed necessary. What would you say then?
You completely missed the point. Put the events in chronological order and you will realize why IV Core insists on meeting lawmakers. Pretty soon, there will be no avenues even with a lot of legitimate experience for an immigrant unless they end up winning nobel prizes....sorry there are not many nobel prize winners in this world and I have not met one so far.
Anyway, hope others continue to meet the lawmakers leaving your EB2-EB3 divide to ask them for recapture and removal of country limits.
Peace.
Macaca
09-14 03:13 PM
Employers Oppose Hiring Provisions in Immigration Bill (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=75395&postcount=37) By Krissah Williams (williamsk@washpost.com) | Washington Post Staff Writer, June 3, 2007
Top Talent Could Lose Fast Track to U.S. Under Bill, Foreign Luminaries Would No Longer Skip Immigration Line (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=72488&postcount=1169) By Anthony Faiola (faiolaa@washpost.com) and Robin Shulman (shulmanr@washpost.com) | Washington Post Staff Writers, May 26, 2007
A Self-Inflicted Wound (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=52210&postcount=308) The U.S. is blocking the best and brightest immigrants Editorial (ombudsman@washpost.com, national@washpost.com, marmerg@washpost.com) March 12, 2007
Top Talent Could Lose Fast Track to U.S. Under Bill, Foreign Luminaries Would No Longer Skip Immigration Line (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=72488&postcount=1169) By Anthony Faiola (faiolaa@washpost.com) and Robin Shulman (shulmanr@washpost.com) | Washington Post Staff Writers, May 26, 2007
A Self-Inflicted Wound (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=52210&postcount=308) The U.S. is blocking the best and brightest immigrants Editorial (ombudsman@washpost.com, national@washpost.com, marmerg@washpost.com) March 12, 2007
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rajuram
06-09 11:16 PM
multiple year eads & ap - may or may not happen
visa recapture - no chance
visa increase - will not happen
still contribute??
visa recapture - no chance
visa increase - will not happen
still contribute??
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gctest
09-15 04:19 PM
That memo/document you pointed out is an interpretation. We have already said that USCIS's interpretation is incorrect. We intend to correct this interpretation with this lawsuit.
Infact, it would be wrong to call this a lawsuit.
We are aiming for an injunction (or a stay order) in step 1 of the lawsuit that would prevent USCIS from working on any interfiling/PD porting requests.
If the injunction is with retroactive effect, all the EBs (not just EB3) who have ported their PDs will have their cases frozen. USCIS would not be able to work on them.
The remainder of the lawsuit can take its sweet time... the injunction should serve the primary cause.
Incorrect.
Please read this pdf document
AFM Update: Chapter 22: Employment-based Petitions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/afm_ch22_091206R.pdf)
Please pay attention to section (3) Priority Date Based on Earlier Petition on page 28 -
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If an alien is the beneficiary of two (or more) approved employment-based immigrant visa petitions, the priority of the earlier petition may be applied to all subsequently-filed employment-based petitions.
For example:
Company A files a labor certification request on behalf of an alien ("Joe") as a janitor on January 10, 2003. The DOL issues the certification on March 20, 2003. Company A later files, and USCIS approves, a relating I-140 visa petition under the EB-3 category. On July 15, 2003, Joe files a second I-140 visa petition in his own behalf as a rocket scientist under the EB-1 category, which USCIS approves. Joe is entitled to use the January 10, 2003, priority date to apply for adjustment under either the EB-1 or the EB-3 classification.
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I suggest, you talk to an attorney before using words like illegal. It may be unfair, but still be legal.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
Infact, it would be wrong to call this a lawsuit.
We are aiming for an injunction (or a stay order) in step 1 of the lawsuit that would prevent USCIS from working on any interfiling/PD porting requests.
If the injunction is with retroactive effect, all the EBs (not just EB3) who have ported their PDs will have their cases frozen. USCIS would not be able to work on them.
The remainder of the lawsuit can take its sweet time... the injunction should serve the primary cause.
Incorrect.
Please read this pdf document
AFM Update: Chapter 22: Employment-based Petitions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/afm_ch22_091206R.pdf)
Please pay attention to section (3) Priority Date Based on Earlier Petition on page 28 -
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If an alien is the beneficiary of two (or more) approved employment-based immigrant visa petitions, the priority of the earlier petition may be applied to all subsequently-filed employment-based petitions.
For example:
Company A files a labor certification request on behalf of an alien ("Joe") as a janitor on January 10, 2003. The DOL issues the certification on March 20, 2003. Company A later files, and USCIS approves, a relating I-140 visa petition under the EB-3 category. On July 15, 2003, Joe files a second I-140 visa petition in his own behalf as a rocket scientist under the EB-1 category, which USCIS approves. Joe is entitled to use the January 10, 2003, priority date to apply for adjustment under either the EB-1 or the EB-3 classification.
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I suggest, you talk to an attorney before using words like illegal. It may be unfair, but still be legal.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
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geesee
03-03 01:57 PM
I don't think EB3-I would be U for more than a month, as I keep saying this year EB3 would be getting some share of spill-over. So even if it becomes U for April that would be temporarily and it would return back in May.
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MDix
I dont know why people add signature in a forum post ?
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gc_buddy
09-12 12:09 AM
I am in..Terrific Idea
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she81
08-13 04:48 PM
I am exactly in the same situation. Sometimes I feel that I should just dump the EB3 application (PD: 12/04) and start a brand new EB2. Maybe the EB2 PD of say 12/08 will end up to be better than EB3 12/04.
I believe everyone is thinking in the same direction... but if and only if we're able to come out of the blackhole called I-140.
I believe everyone is thinking in the same direction... but if and only if we're able to come out of the blackhole called I-140.
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raysaikat
01-06 12:35 AM
Couldn't agree more - especially about paying for ANY college here vs. in India.
I studied in IIT (B.Tech), got M.S. and Ph.D. from here and now a professor. My observations/opinions are as follows:
1. Up to class XII, Indian schools are good. However, there are certain fundamental differences. Indian schools teach more material and sometimes more challenging material than U.S. schools. However, the majority of the students end up merely "remembering" and not learning; even in sciences. In general, an average student from an Indian school system would "know" more than an average student from an U.S. high-school, although in my view such "knowledge" (remembering something as a "data") is worthless. However, U.S. school system tends not to kill the curiosity and creativity of the students, which Indian system does. For good and brilliant students, however, there is no clear trend; you can get excellent and creative students from both systems.
2. There are a handful of fine undergraduate institutes in India. The names comes to my mind are IITs, some RECs (Trichi used to be good), Jadavpur Univ., Roorkie, BHU, etc. (although IITs remain at a level higher than the rest). If you include maths, then count ISI's, which are better than IITs. The rest are just crappy. And I know how crappy can they be from my experience. I have the misfortune of teaching 100's of students who come here with an Anna University (or Osmania) B.Tech./B.E. degree in engineering, and knows absolutely nothing. And I am not exaggerating: they cannot write an elementary program in any language (apparently they learn something called "theoretical" computer programming in which they do not actually learn to program); does not know any mathematics (most cannot integrate x*exp(x); one student could not tell me what is f(0.7) by looking at a graph of x vs. f(x)) and cannot operate simple lab equipments. It is just unbelievable! Anyway, moving on.
3. M.S. onwards, Indian Universities are bad. The only quality Institute in India in Engineering at the M.S. level is IISc. You have some more in other science related disciplines like TIFR (not sure if they give M.S. degree). IITs are not good at the M.S. level and beyond (in case you did not know: M.S. students in IITs are called "Matka"s and professors never grade M.S. students in the same scale with the B.Tech students in the fear that most M.S. student would then fail! And this indeed happened; true story.).
There is indeed a severe dearth of qualified Ph.D. graduates in India. I had spoken with the director of Bell Labs in India and he finds it very difficult to find people who can work in R/D as a profession
The basic problem is finding qualified teaching staffs. Professor's salaries, even in IITs, are about 7-10 times lower than what a qualified person with an equivalent degree currently gets in Industry. No wonder they cannot find faculty members (I have---well, at least had---an open faculty position offer from the director of an IIT; they are desperate for good persons). The compensation gap is too large, even considering nice faculty housing in a good place and good community for your family inside the IIT.
By the way, no doubt there are crappy universities in the U.S. as well; especially at the M.S. level since there is no accreditation at the M.S. level.
I studied in IIT (B.Tech), got M.S. and Ph.D. from here and now a professor. My observations/opinions are as follows:
1. Up to class XII, Indian schools are good. However, there are certain fundamental differences. Indian schools teach more material and sometimes more challenging material than U.S. schools. However, the majority of the students end up merely "remembering" and not learning; even in sciences. In general, an average student from an Indian school system would "know" more than an average student from an U.S. high-school, although in my view such "knowledge" (remembering something as a "data") is worthless. However, U.S. school system tends not to kill the curiosity and creativity of the students, which Indian system does. For good and brilliant students, however, there is no clear trend; you can get excellent and creative students from both systems.
2. There are a handful of fine undergraduate institutes in India. The names comes to my mind are IITs, some RECs (Trichi used to be good), Jadavpur Univ., Roorkie, BHU, etc. (although IITs remain at a level higher than the rest). If you include maths, then count ISI's, which are better than IITs. The rest are just crappy. And I know how crappy can they be from my experience. I have the misfortune of teaching 100's of students who come here with an Anna University (or Osmania) B.Tech./B.E. degree in engineering, and knows absolutely nothing. And I am not exaggerating: they cannot write an elementary program in any language (apparently they learn something called "theoretical" computer programming in which they do not actually learn to program); does not know any mathematics (most cannot integrate x*exp(x); one student could not tell me what is f(0.7) by looking at a graph of x vs. f(x)) and cannot operate simple lab equipments. It is just unbelievable! Anyway, moving on.
3. M.S. onwards, Indian Universities are bad. The only quality Institute in India in Engineering at the M.S. level is IISc. You have some more in other science related disciplines like TIFR (not sure if they give M.S. degree). IITs are not good at the M.S. level and beyond (in case you did not know: M.S. students in IITs are called "Matka"s and professors never grade M.S. students in the same scale with the B.Tech students in the fear that most M.S. student would then fail! And this indeed happened; true story.).
There is indeed a severe dearth of qualified Ph.D. graduates in India. I had spoken with the director of Bell Labs in India and he finds it very difficult to find people who can work in R/D as a profession
The basic problem is finding qualified teaching staffs. Professor's salaries, even in IITs, are about 7-10 times lower than what a qualified person with an equivalent degree currently gets in Industry. No wonder they cannot find faculty members (I have---well, at least had---an open faculty position offer from the director of an IIT; they are desperate for good persons). The compensation gap is too large, even considering nice faculty housing in a good place and good community for your family inside the IIT.
By the way, no doubt there are crappy universities in the U.S. as well; especially at the M.S. level since there is no accreditation at the M.S. level.
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test101
07-06 11:32 AM
All,
Pls mention Zoe Lofgren's letter to DHS and DOS and also NY time article while talking/ meeting your lawmakers. Guys,pls dot it and it is worth giving it a try. We will not loose more than what we have lost by this fiasco.
Hi :)
Would not be a better idea if we came up of list of sentors/congressmen that we need to call for the day. This way each center office get a certain amount of call volume on the same issue. This might make a difference.
let me know. We just need agroup of volunteer this will organize and target our effeort.
thanks
Pls mention Zoe Lofgren's letter to DHS and DOS and also NY time article while talking/ meeting your lawmakers. Guys,pls dot it and it is worth giving it a try. We will not loose more than what we have lost by this fiasco.
Hi :)
Would not be a better idea if we came up of list of sentors/congressmen that we need to call for the day. This way each center office get a certain amount of call volume on the same issue. This might make a difference.
let me know. We just need agroup of volunteer this will organize and target our effeort.
thanks
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Totoro
05-02 09:41 AM
Good job Admin2.
Folks with ITINs,
Please file for SSNs quoting this stimulus package and get the refund. If someone tries and SSA refuses, we can take it up with legislators or even pursue litigation.
I am the person who originally compiled the information. I am in the process of appealing the first SSA denial and I am in touch with my local congresswoman about this. If you want to get involved, please let me know. Also, I recommend that everyone contacts his or her congressman/congresswoman even if you are not directly affected. Most legislators are not even aware of how this rule affects people. We need to stop groups like FAIR from pushing through more legislation that discriminates against immigrants.
Finally, if the SSA denies my appeal, I am planning to file with the federal appeals court. Any ideas on how to go about this are appreciated.
Folks with ITINs,
Please file for SSNs quoting this stimulus package and get the refund. If someone tries and SSA refuses, we can take it up with legislators or even pursue litigation.
I am the person who originally compiled the information. I am in the process of appealing the first SSA denial and I am in touch with my local congresswoman about this. If you want to get involved, please let me know. Also, I recommend that everyone contacts his or her congressman/congresswoman even if you are not directly affected. Most legislators are not even aware of how this rule affects people. We need to stop groups like FAIR from pushing through more legislation that discriminates against immigrants.
Finally, if the SSA denies my appeal, I am planning to file with the federal appeals court. Any ideas on how to go about this are appreciated.
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05-15 09:46 AM
Here is the scoop.
from US Congresswoman's office, an immigration specialist spoke to their liaison at the Nebraska Service Center.
Liaison confirmed the following:
1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy)
2. I-140 revocation in Feb, 2009 ( he has not provided the day of the month, but from LUD I have it strongly pointing to 02/03/2009)
I have not told the Congresswoman's office about the I-140 revocation. Just mentioned that it might have happened as I have left the company.
3. Liaison did confirm that even after the I-140 being withdrawn I am eligible for adjustment thru AC21.
4. Liaison did agree that if the I-140 was revoked within the stipulated time given in AC21, Nebraska’s decision to deny the I-485 may have been in error. (which in my case is true)
Immigration specialist at the Congresswoman's office is going to contact the Director of NSC to review this matter with a supervisor
Unanswered questions:
1. If the Liaison can see that my I-140 is approved on 09/04/2009, why is that the adjudicating officer is responding with a denial on 09/04/2009 and subsequent denial of I-485?
2. Are they both not looking at my information with same interface?
Conclusion:
Atleast in my case it looks deliberate and intentional.
Hi ind_game,
For me, 1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy) has typo. I think your 09/04/2009 should be 2007.
Please correct.
from US Congresswoman's office, an immigration specialist spoke to their liaison at the Nebraska Service Center.
Liaison confirmed the following:
1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy)
2. I-140 revocation in Feb, 2009 ( he has not provided the day of the month, but from LUD I have it strongly pointing to 02/03/2009)
I have not told the Congresswoman's office about the I-140 revocation. Just mentioned that it might have happened as I have left the company.
3. Liaison did confirm that even after the I-140 being withdrawn I am eligible for adjustment thru AC21.
4. Liaison did agree that if the I-140 was revoked within the stipulated time given in AC21, Nebraska’s decision to deny the I-485 may have been in error. (which in my case is true)
Immigration specialist at the Congresswoman's office is going to contact the Director of NSC to review this matter with a supervisor
Unanswered questions:
1. If the Liaison can see that my I-140 is approved on 09/04/2009, why is that the adjudicating officer is responding with a denial on 09/04/2009 and subsequent denial of I-485?
2. Are they both not looking at my information with same interface?
Conclusion:
Atleast in my case it looks deliberate and intentional.
Hi ind_game,
For me, 1. I-140 approval in September, 2007 (actually 09/04/2009 as I have the hard copy) has typo. I think your 09/04/2009 should be 2007.
Please correct.
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bugs2007
06-10 01:07 PM
Hi,
I am sure you all have seen the bulletin:
F. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
Demand for numbers, primarily by USCIS for adjustment of status cases, will bring the entire Employment Third preference category to the annual numerical limit by the end of June. As a result, this category will become “unavailable” beginning in July and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2008. Such action will only be temporary, however, and Employment Third preference availability will return to the cut-off dates established for June in October, the first month of the new fiscal year.
Does this mean that all the numbers for EB3 have been used up, and there will be no more EB3 cases processed till Oct 2008, and hence the category is U;
or
Does it mean that they will continue to process the cases but the category is U for filing any new cases till Oct 2008?
Thank you.
I am sure you all have seen the bulletin:
F. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
Demand for numbers, primarily by USCIS for adjustment of status cases, will bring the entire Employment Third preference category to the annual numerical limit by the end of June. As a result, this category will become “unavailable” beginning in July and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2008. Such action will only be temporary, however, and Employment Third preference availability will return to the cut-off dates established for June in October, the first month of the new fiscal year.
Does this mean that all the numbers for EB3 have been used up, and there will be no more EB3 cases processed till Oct 2008, and hence the category is U;
or
Does it mean that they will continue to process the cases but the category is U for filing any new cases till Oct 2008?
Thank you.
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gc28262
07-06 09:14 AM
I think it is time we threw away the concept that democracy is the best.
Look at Obama the socialist and anti-immigrant law makers in this country who are playing to the gallery. Are they doing any good for this country ?
I always prefer an open self nominated leader to a democratically elected leader.
OP should work with IV core/even get involved in a serious conversation with core team to promote his ideas. I am sure core is open to suggestions and entertain discussions from well meaning members.
Look at Obama the socialist and anti-immigrant law makers in this country who are playing to the gallery. Are they doing any good for this country ?
I always prefer an open self nominated leader to a democratically elected leader.
OP should work with IV core/even get involved in a serious conversation with core team to promote his ideas. I am sure core is open to suggestions and entertain discussions from well meaning members.
Dhundhun
03-18 01:55 PM
Can you show us the source of your information? It is very clearly written on the IRS website that if Married and filing jointly, both need to have SSN. If one spouse has ITIN, you will not get ANY rebate.
Here it is:
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179211,00.html
I can feel my H1B friends being hurt due to such discrimination.
I did not ask for my wife's EAD, while filing AOS, because she don't want to work. IRS is forcing us (indirectly) to take EAD, so that SSA will provide SSN and then based on SSN, IRS will give stimulus benefit.
Here it is:
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179211,00.html
I can feel my H1B friends being hurt due to such discrimination.
I did not ask for my wife's EAD, while filing AOS, because she don't want to work. IRS is forcing us (indirectly) to take EAD, so that SSA will provide SSN and then based on SSN, IRS will give stimulus benefit.
reachag
12-18 03:35 PM
Clarification - i meant Senior Member based on seniority on this Site and not based on age :). This idea has been brain stormed many times in the past and ruled out by many as it is not in our best interests and also not workable. Members who have been visting this site for some time would know and hence the comment about Seniority :)
Agreed, my thoughts on this are different from yours. Good..not every one thinks the same otherwise we would be short of ideas :)
first, I don't know what you mean by "Senior Member like you coming up with this idea". Seniority on this site I think is determined by how long a member has been registered. Second, even if it means older members, what does age have to do with this idea?
I have already said that most IV members (clearly you are one) are opposed to this.
My thoughts happen to be different from yours, and I dont plan on changing my ideas anytime soon.
Of course for this to work there has to be a signficant number of participants, otherwise actually nothing is going to work. And even with significant participation, there are no guarantees: look at how many people called Sen Sessions, but still made no difference.
Last, dont you guys get vacation?? Who is talking abut losing money? If you are paid hourly then dont take part.
and if you dont agree you dont need me to tell you dont be a part of this.
But, as mentioned many, many, many times before, I am for this idea, or something that gets attention in a big way.
Agreed, my thoughts on this are different from yours. Good..not every one thinks the same otherwise we would be short of ideas :)
first, I don't know what you mean by "Senior Member like you coming up with this idea". Seniority on this site I think is determined by how long a member has been registered. Second, even if it means older members, what does age have to do with this idea?
I have already said that most IV members (clearly you are one) are opposed to this.
My thoughts happen to be different from yours, and I dont plan on changing my ideas anytime soon.
Of course for this to work there has to be a signficant number of participants, otherwise actually nothing is going to work. And even with significant participation, there are no guarantees: look at how many people called Sen Sessions, but still made no difference.
Last, dont you guys get vacation?? Who is talking abut losing money? If you are paid hourly then dont take part.
and if you dont agree you dont need me to tell you dont be a part of this.
But, as mentioned many, many, many times before, I am for this idea, or something that gets attention in a big way.
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