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vina92
12-13 01:29 PM
Gandhigiri approach is going to be the best approach for this if we do it in the right way.
Our cause, which is going to benefit us and our families only, are not going to invoke sympathy from any average americans.No matter how good a scientist,physician,software engineer you are, the educated americans understand that but not average american. So no wonder, that some politicians and business interest groups appreciate our presence but others simply do not care because it does'nt affect them.
So we have to prove ourselves in various fields and make ourselves visible and indispensible to the local communities, state and the country.
How are we going to do it? I do not know! Here I do need brainstorming ideas. May be doctors can provide free health care to people without health insurance and donate some free time. We have to think of various other strategies. Like creating local food banks etc.
I do not think we can coordinate such efforts in such a large scale so it's not going to happen.
Our cause, which is going to benefit us and our families only, are not going to invoke sympathy from any average americans.No matter how good a scientist,physician,software engineer you are, the educated americans understand that but not average american. So no wonder, that some politicians and business interest groups appreciate our presence but others simply do not care because it does'nt affect them.
So we have to prove ourselves in various fields and make ourselves visible and indispensible to the local communities, state and the country.
How are we going to do it? I do not know! Here I do need brainstorming ideas. May be doctors can provide free health care to people without health insurance and donate some free time. We have to think of various other strategies. Like creating local food banks etc.
I do not think we can coordinate such efforts in such a large scale so it's not going to happen.
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needhelp!
03-12 02:58 PM
reddog, please explain how you have supported IV in the past in non-monetary ways. For lobbying, there is not much you can do other than support monetarily,or make trips to DC yourself.
I am sure IV core will at least consider such non-monetary support on case-by-case basis.
So your definition of support is 'monetary support' only?
I am sure IV core will at least consider such non-monetary support on case-by-case basis.
So your definition of support is 'monetary support' only?
Mygr8life
12-18 02:30 PM
Oops, sorry for the typo in item 1, it should read:
1. How many total employment visas (is it = 140,000/4) are available per quarter?
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Kondur...My gut says you are probably right that "they will apply spillover only in the last quarter" but the INA law says "quarterly...". So if "by law" if they are required to utilize the quarterly quota by Dec 2009, how many estimated #s are we talking? Is the estimated spillover visas couple of hundred or 1000 or 10,000-15,000???
Can someone answer the following (I understand IV has crunched the numbers and have predicted dates, but it would also be helpful to see these translated into #s): Does anyone wanna take a shot at crunching the above #s?
Between Oct2009 to Dec2009 (1st quarter):
1. How many total employment visas (is it be 140,000/4) are available per quarter?
2. How many total EB1+EB2Row pending applications?
3. Now the big assumption, How many of these have been adjudicated or have been alloted a visa # or could potentially use a visa #? (gurus...make some assumption).
4. So this current quarter how many visa #s are leftover for spillover to EB2-nonRow? (theortically should/could be or must be/allocated or "used up" by Dec2009, i.e. within the next 13 days)?
So in plain english: The answer could be as simple as "This quarter, which ends on Dec31, 2009, there could be .... visas available for spillover".
This might be unreasonable to expect but could be useful information...Whether spillover happens this quarter or not? thats a different story:confused:
Thanks.
1. How many total employment visas (is it = 140,000/4) are available per quarter?
**********
Kondur...My gut says you are probably right that "they will apply spillover only in the last quarter" but the INA law says "quarterly...". So if "by law" if they are required to utilize the quarterly quota by Dec 2009, how many estimated #s are we talking? Is the estimated spillover visas couple of hundred or 1000 or 10,000-15,000???
Can someone answer the following (I understand IV has crunched the numbers and have predicted dates, but it would also be helpful to see these translated into #s): Does anyone wanna take a shot at crunching the above #s?
Between Oct2009 to Dec2009 (1st quarter):
1. How many total employment visas (is it be 140,000/4) are available per quarter?
2. How many total EB1+EB2Row pending applications?
3. Now the big assumption, How many of these have been adjudicated or have been alloted a visa # or could potentially use a visa #? (gurus...make some assumption).
4. So this current quarter how many visa #s are leftover for spillover to EB2-nonRow? (theortically should/could be or must be/allocated or "used up" by Dec2009, i.e. within the next 13 days)?
So in plain english: The answer could be as simple as "This quarter, which ends on Dec31, 2009, there could be .... visas available for spillover".
This might be unreasonable to expect but could be useful information...Whether spillover happens this quarter or not? thats a different story:confused:
Thanks.
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07-14 02:32 PM
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GCard_Dream
07-06 12:06 AM
This is by far the most effective story that highlights the security concerns raised by approving cases that hasn't cleared the background check yet. This could be the big story. It may, however, be the double-edged sword. I think we need to keep this going as much as we can.
Digg .. Digg.. Digg ... keep digging even in your sleep.
Digg .. Digg.. Digg ... keep digging even in your sleep.
khukubindu
01-03 03:11 PM
Does anybody know whether USCIS do background checking on AP application or not ? It seems for my case they are doing as the IO told me.
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Humhongekamyab
03-03 01:47 PM
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gunung
07-05 03:30 PM
My case was wrongly put in the TR catagory for 2 years despite my efforts to get the Phili center to correct it. It was finally put into RIR in April 2007 while other cases are being approved with later PDs...... Maybe I shall wait 3 more months since they promissed to have it done this September????!!!!
PBEC, PD July 2003, EB3, RIR, NY
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pappu
09-12 12:17 AM
Thank you.
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svr_76
09-15 06:25 PM
Ramba - you seem to be working through a body-shopper as a plain consultant with restricted veritical movement in the organizational chain which implies your underlying assuption that if same org files multiple petitions for the same person.
In 2003, they were not able to skilled developer so file my eb3...now after one completes master's degree ..experience in other companies if they find that the cannot find experienced manager and after due recrutiment process find that one of their own employee is the best fit for that job.
So now u are saying that they should not do it? That will be a company discriminating against their own employees???
Comon...I thought guys from IT were logicall and brainy folks (and hence were grant EB2 category for their exceptional calibre)....guess thats wrong.
In 2003, they were not able to skilled developer so file my eb3...now after one completes master's degree ..experience in other companies if they find that the cannot find experienced manager and after due recrutiment process find that one of their own employee is the best fit for that job.
So now u are saying that they should not do it? That will be a company discriminating against their own employees???
Comon...I thought guys from IT were logicall and brainy folks (and hence were grant EB2 category for their exceptional calibre)....guess thats wrong.
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willwin
04-01 08:55 AM
Oh yeah...I've read that report. Dude just walk out if u dont like the process. Nobody is stopping u. Do u think things are faster in the country u came from? But when u come to another country u want things to happen like that. Yes 7 years is slow. But if millions keep coming into this country what can the USCIS do? Its clearly an overflow which they cant handle. Before u give a red think twice. Read clearly what one is trying to say. I agree with IV's fight for speedening of the process. But to blame the USCIS and to ask for a change in management is too much. We have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER to ask for that.
Somebody said that you don't deserve a second but I dont mind spending few just to make few things straight here.
1. We (the EB applicants) did not cross the border overnight. We were interviewed, shortlisted, H1B applicaion processed, approved and at the port of entry, we were welcomed by the officials. We did not sneak through.
2. Just because corruption prevails in India, it does not mean people can be treated badly here. Corruption in India is none of US business. We are here on business. US want our skills and we need the dollars. Period.
3. Beyond that, employers here (it could India or China based - but are established organizations here) see a requirement for our skills in future and US government is verifying that through LC and I140 and offering us GC. Now the fact that US immigration is broken is evident enough that this country is not error free. Every country has its own problems.
4. Let's talk about corruption. Where on earth is there no corruption? Whereever human beings are, there is corruption. 100%. It's here in the USA, its there in Japan, its there in Gulf. Everywhere. I am not saying corruption is good but is inevitable.
If you say, US thinks that because these guys are from India where corruption is to the core, and these guys have half the facilities (back home) that this country provide and hence deserve a broken immigration system that screws up their life, then my friend, this country is no better than any other country on this earth for being so mean. And, for that reason, if you ask me to get out of this country, I would like to say, humbly, that is none of your problem. If yes, ask every US organization that is trying to exploit the business potential in India to get out from India. When the last US business leaves India, I will leave this country.
Somebody said that you don't deserve a second but I dont mind spending few just to make few things straight here.
1. We (the EB applicants) did not cross the border overnight. We were interviewed, shortlisted, H1B applicaion processed, approved and at the port of entry, we were welcomed by the officials. We did not sneak through.
2. Just because corruption prevails in India, it does not mean people can be treated badly here. Corruption in India is none of US business. We are here on business. US want our skills and we need the dollars. Period.
3. Beyond that, employers here (it could India or China based - but are established organizations here) see a requirement for our skills in future and US government is verifying that through LC and I140 and offering us GC. Now the fact that US immigration is broken is evident enough that this country is not error free. Every country has its own problems.
4. Let's talk about corruption. Where on earth is there no corruption? Whereever human beings are, there is corruption. 100%. It's here in the USA, its there in Japan, its there in Gulf. Everywhere. I am not saying corruption is good but is inevitable.
If you say, US thinks that because these guys are from India where corruption is to the core, and these guys have half the facilities (back home) that this country provide and hence deserve a broken immigration system that screws up their life, then my friend, this country is no better than any other country on this earth for being so mean. And, for that reason, if you ask me to get out of this country, I would like to say, humbly, that is none of your problem. If yes, ask every US organization that is trying to exploit the business potential in India to get out from India. When the last US business leaves India, I will leave this country.
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Suva
07-15 10:58 AM
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Milind123
09-12 10:03 PM
Looks like you will soon cross My 350 Contribution ;)
I pledge 100$ more once Milind123 crosses 400 !!:D
Any Takers !!!
thats the Least we non attending :( :(
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Can you please make that "equals" from "crosses". :D (I am sorry written too much code in my life)
I pledge 100$ more once Milind123 crosses 400 !!:D
Any Takers !!!
thats the Least we non attending :( :(
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Can you please make that "equals" from "crosses". :D (I am sorry written too much code in my life)
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jthomas
08-13 06:50 PM
Since EB3- I is doomed can I apply for consular processing and move to canada since i recently got canadian green card. I have a EAD and AP and I am in H1B status too.
Gurus please suggest.
Maybe if many EB3-I guys would move to another country. Some actions may be seen.
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Gurus please suggest.
Maybe if many EB3-I guys would move to another country. Some actions may be seen.
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edgarrecto
12-26 06:25 PM
i filed advance parole maybe august 10,2007, until now status check says pending.
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gcseeker2002
09-13 05:47 PM
What can we do about it ? I knew 3-4 guys who ported from EB3 to EB2 and even got their 485 approved because of this, during August.
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RNGC
06-24 03:04 PM
Thanks...
Here is an article on contribution of Legal Immigrants to Social Security:
http://www.nfap.net/researchactivities/studies/SocialSecurityStudy2005.pdf
RNGC, excellent thread, looks like pessimistic folks have taking this thread for a ride.
America stands to loose in many ways. Here is why..
A study by Kauffman Foundation shows that "an average 13.25-year lag between a key founder�s arrival in the United States and firm formation" - source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
Loosing well trained individuals due to frustration with the immigration system or due to expired visa duration is equivalent to outsourcing. impact of outsourcing to the US economy is very well debated these days.
Another Kauffman report shows Immigrants were involved in 25% of the US patents approved in 2006 - Source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1008366#PaperDownload
This leads to reverse-brain drain phenomena who's effects to the economy are well documented.
Here is couple of NFAP study about
The impact of immigrant Entrepreneurs and professionals on the US competitiveness:
http://www.nfap.com/researchactivities/studies/immigrant_entreprenuers_professionals_november_200 6.pdf
Driving Jobs and innovation offshore:
http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf
Stalling the career path through GC backlogs will impede the creativity of the individuals and hence dampen their entrepreneurial spirit. It also kills the innovative spirits in the individuals.
Those who feel that "grass is greener on the other side" will jump to the other side irrespective of their GC backlog issues, their criteria is different. But there are many who believes that the American system cultivates innovation and entrepreneurial skills, for them the GC backlog is a drag on their growth.
EB1/2/3 is not a delimiter to innovation, innovation happens at all levels. All EB1's aren't PhD's, there are quite a few PhD's in EB2 and similarly there are quite a few MS folks in EB3 too. By saying US just wants EB1 is utter disrespect to fellow professionals who are not on EB1.
Here is an article on contribution of Legal Immigrants to Social Security:
http://www.nfap.net/researchactivities/studies/SocialSecurityStudy2005.pdf
RNGC, excellent thread, looks like pessimistic folks have taking this thread for a ride.
America stands to loose in many ways. Here is why..
A study by Kauffman Foundation shows that "an average 13.25-year lag between a key founder�s arrival in the United States and firm formation" - source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
Loosing well trained individuals due to frustration with the immigration system or due to expired visa duration is equivalent to outsourcing. impact of outsourcing to the US economy is very well debated these days.
Another Kauffman report shows Immigrants were involved in 25% of the US patents approved in 2006 - Source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1008366#PaperDownload
This leads to reverse-brain drain phenomena who's effects to the economy are well documented.
Here is couple of NFAP study about
The impact of immigrant Entrepreneurs and professionals on the US competitiveness:
http://www.nfap.com/researchactivities/studies/immigrant_entreprenuers_professionals_november_200 6.pdf
Driving Jobs and innovation offshore:
http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf
Stalling the career path through GC backlogs will impede the creativity of the individuals and hence dampen their entrepreneurial spirit. It also kills the innovative spirits in the individuals.
Those who feel that "grass is greener on the other side" will jump to the other side irrespective of their GC backlog issues, their criteria is different. But there are many who believes that the American system cultivates innovation and entrepreneurial skills, for them the GC backlog is a drag on their growth.
EB1/2/3 is not a delimiter to innovation, innovation happens at all levels. All EB1's aren't PhD's, there are quite a few PhD's in EB2 and similarly there are quite a few MS folks in EB3 too. By saying US just wants EB1 is utter disrespect to fellow professionals who are not on EB1.
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conchshell
06-05 01:09 PM
I am keeping an eye on the funding drive... and it seems that there is progress but somewhat slow. I think we need new ideas to promote the same. What about giving IV T-Shirts to all those who contribute $100+ for our 20K to 50K drive?
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NKR
01-06 07:38 PM
By the way, since when 100's of students mean a couple of folks? So far I have taught about 100 such students. And I and my colleagues have been observing problems with such students for over last 5 years or more (about 1000 students). These are not anomalies, rather statistically significant observations.
And, by the way, (almost) all these students join Indian consulting companies after graduation, which means (at least those) consulting companies care nothing about the quality of the employees. Banning H1-B access to such consulting companies will be of desirable, indeed.
You seem to be a guy from north India who dislikes anything remotely connected to south, or probably you are envious of the strides that south India has taken, anyways I do not care what YOU or Wadhwa says about the quality of education in some parts of the world.
I do not know how this discussion is going to help our cause.
Moderators, please close this thread. This thread has potrayed India in bad light to the rest of the world and has given enough ammunition to anti immigrants.
And, by the way, (almost) all these students join Indian consulting companies after graduation, which means (at least those) consulting companies care nothing about the quality of the employees. Banning H1-B access to such consulting companies will be of desirable, indeed.
You seem to be a guy from north India who dislikes anything remotely connected to south, or probably you are envious of the strides that south India has taken, anyways I do not care what YOU or Wadhwa says about the quality of education in some parts of the world.
I do not know how this discussion is going to help our cause.
Moderators, please close this thread. This thread has potrayed India in bad light to the rest of the world and has given enough ammunition to anti immigrants.
WAIT_FOR_EVER_GC
09-01 03:21 PM
Landed in January' 2000
1st Labor Filed in Sept'2001
State approved and project over so had to to move over
2nd Labor filed in Jan'2003 with Company B
Attorney screwed it
3rd Labor filed in Jun'2007
Missed July 2007 fiasco
New date EB3 - Jun'2007
Sorry to say but your are in deep shit if it goes the way it is going. If let say Eb3 moves 1 year every 3 years. You have 18 years to wait.
Please upgrade to Eb2.
1st Labor Filed in Sept'2001
State approved and project over so had to to move over
2nd Labor filed in Jan'2003 with Company B
Attorney screwed it
3rd Labor filed in Jun'2007
Missed July 2007 fiasco
New date EB3 - Jun'2007
Sorry to say but your are in deep shit if it goes the way it is going. If let say Eb3 moves 1 year every 3 years. You have 18 years to wait.
Please upgrade to Eb2.
Eb3_frustrated
04-25 02:44 PM
learining01,
if you dont like an idea, learn to let it go by, please do not try to impose your thoughts or enforce your will.
All members can suggest ideas, some are pratical, some are not. If you do not like an idea just let it go by....
if you dont like an idea, learn to let it go by, please do not try to impose your thoughts or enforce your will.
All members can suggest ideas, some are pratical, some are not. If you do not like an idea just let it go by....
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