conundrum
03-12 02:42 PM
It will be great if everyone who comes to IV contributes. That would be the ideal case scenario. But I think if there were specific donation drives like the one that is on going, then I believe a lot of people who believe in that cause would contribute and others who dont, wont!
Now, in this donor's only club that IV is proposing to have, what does the core have in mind. Is that going to be a forum where exclusive information is provided? What is the incentive for a "donor" to visit the general public forum? If the "donor"s dont visit the general forum arent you effectively killing off the general forum?
Like I had posted earlier, what stops a donor from making whatever is there in the donors only forum made available to everyone? Isnt this going to cause more divisions within IV?
Instead of forum for donors wouldnt it make more sense to have additional features made available to donors? Say, like having the ability to ask questions to a immigration lawyer or if any lawmaker is ready to answer quetions, the ability to post questions to them. I am all for donors getting a little bit of extra perks, but to have seperate forum... I am not sure if that is the best way for IV to go abt.
Yes. I agree. We had to do this because we saw that even after running a drive for FOIA that helps every member we could not reach the goal yet. This data will be sought by all of us but if we are not ready to support the effort, it will be tough to invest in it. The subscriptions will help us continue IV initiatives with more zeal and we will know that a lot of members support us.
Now, in this donor's only club that IV is proposing to have, what does the core have in mind. Is that going to be a forum where exclusive information is provided? What is the incentive for a "donor" to visit the general public forum? If the "donor"s dont visit the general forum arent you effectively killing off the general forum?
Like I had posted earlier, what stops a donor from making whatever is there in the donors only forum made available to everyone? Isnt this going to cause more divisions within IV?
Instead of forum for donors wouldnt it make more sense to have additional features made available to donors? Say, like having the ability to ask questions to a immigration lawyer or if any lawmaker is ready to answer quetions, the ability to post questions to them. I am all for donors getting a little bit of extra perks, but to have seperate forum... I am not sure if that is the best way for IV to go abt.
Yes. I agree. We had to do this because we saw that even after running a drive for FOIA that helps every member we could not reach the goal yet. This data will be sought by all of us but if we are not ready to support the effort, it will be tough to invest in it. The subscriptions will help us continue IV initiatives with more zeal and we will know that a lot of members support us.
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tikka
07-18 02:06 PM
50$ each month.
for your contribution... :)
for your contribution... :)
gc_perm2k6
03-05 05:26 PM
My 485 had soft LUD on 2/27/09. Although, my husband's dependent application dint have one.
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irock
09-11 05:12 PM
I'm in.
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bajrangbali
06-11 10:41 AM
Guys, I have thrown out my ideas and you can take what suits you from it. As someone mentioned nothing is illegal in it. If you find something, please explain what and why.
My conservative estimate was 100K people pulling 50K$ out..that would be 5 billions...if more comes out even better
Fight for legislation?? Does anyone has any hopes on it still? You would get piecemeal concessions here and there..but the Indian EB immigration community as a whole gets nothing good out of it...2 year EAD, 5 yr EAD..just to wipe the tears...come on guys think out of the box.
You argue it is not discrimination but it is law. I say the law is discriminatory and nobody wants to change it (remember the horses discussion instead of EB immigration discussion in senate), do you need any better example than this?
Anyways, I leave it to your own judgement..and I am going ahead with my plans...I am not planning to leave the country anytime soon so I am not yet into the drastic measures I mentioned, but I sure have started the funds transfer to Indian banks, pulling out of mortgage application and moving out of US equities markets. Also, I am reducing the amount of money I pump into US economy which is currently 5K per month to ~3-3.5K per month. If it makes any difference I am making ~400K a yr from my job and other investments...
My conservative estimate was 100K people pulling 50K$ out..that would be 5 billions...if more comes out even better
Fight for legislation?? Does anyone has any hopes on it still? You would get piecemeal concessions here and there..but the Indian EB immigration community as a whole gets nothing good out of it...2 year EAD, 5 yr EAD..just to wipe the tears...come on guys think out of the box.
You argue it is not discrimination but it is law. I say the law is discriminatory and nobody wants to change it (remember the horses discussion instead of EB immigration discussion in senate), do you need any better example than this?
Anyways, I leave it to your own judgement..and I am going ahead with my plans...I am not planning to leave the country anytime soon so I am not yet into the drastic measures I mentioned, but I sure have started the funds transfer to Indian banks, pulling out of mortgage application and moving out of US equities markets. Also, I am reducing the amount of money I pump into US economy which is currently 5K per month to ~3-3.5K per month. If it makes any difference I am making ~400K a yr from my job and other investments...
satyasaich
03-08 10:38 AM
senator from Kansas:amendment to eliminate visa cap for nurses and therapists.
Oneway, it will be good for EB visas i guess
interesting to listen this judiciary meeting
stay tuned
Oneway, it will be good for EB visas i guess
interesting to listen this judiciary meeting
stay tuned
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santb1975
05-28 09:52 AM
we are losing momentum. Aren't we?
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rsayed
09-10 10:38 AM
I don't what how you define "most" but I am EB2 with US masters with PD 2006 and I am still waiting. Many of my friends with US masters are still waiting.
Same here - Masters from US, with PD 2006....Stilllllllllllllllll waiting!!!!!
I was reading an article handed over by my Lawyer sometime back - the whole GC process was designed to be completed in 6 mos. end-to-end.
This goes to show how outdated the process is, plus the resource crunch they may be facing at USCIS.
All in all - it's a black hole...only your 'karma' can get you out of it:)
Same here - Masters from US, with PD 2006....Stilllllllllllllllll waiting!!!!!
I was reading an article handed over by my Lawyer sometime back - the whole GC process was designed to be completed in 6 mos. end-to-end.
This goes to show how outdated the process is, plus the resource crunch they may be facing at USCIS.
All in all - it's a black hole...only your 'karma' can get you out of it:)
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amitjoey
07-19 01:41 PM
I just contributed $100 in addition to my previous contributions. I posted the details on another thread.
If you are done with contributing please urge your friends to do so. Previously lot of people used to ask what should they tell about IV achievments to friends. Now you have the July Visa bulletin Fiasco. Strike the iron while it is hot. Please urge you friends to contribute ASAP.
I agree, lots of people questioned IV and promised to contribute if they saw any results. Now what is their excuse?.
If you are done with contributing please urge your friends to do so. Previously lot of people used to ask what should they tell about IV achievments to friends. Now you have the July Visa bulletin Fiasco. Strike the iron while it is hot. Please urge you friends to contribute ASAP.
I agree, lots of people questioned IV and promised to contribute if they saw any results. Now what is their excuse?.
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Maverick1
11-09 11:52 AM
I don't have a PERM case pending so no personal gain for me here. But it is unfortunate to see the trend here and it looks like another backlog center is being created (Got myself struck at BEC before and lost opportunities). Do we know whether IV is working with DOL on this ? Any progress ?
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sundevil
07-19 02:43 PM
I have a question about a unique situation of getting stuck in BEC and applying 485 with a newer PERM case. If LC is stuck in BEC at this time, but the person has a new PERM+140 from a different location and applies 485. Can this person change the priority date of 485 when the old LC from BEC gets approved, and 140 approved, to the BEC PD?
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arunmohan
01-03 05:59 PM
i came to US in 1999.since 99 i gave my half of the savings for expenses of my father like my sister wedding ,bought a new car and others which my dad think should be in the house as his son is in US(social status).if i would be in india i would never had think of that.for me GC is freedom card to change job ,my wife can work and i live happy life.I think now it is not possible for me to work in india inspite of tremondous growth.as the expectation of the family members is too much now and because those must be the first one whom i have to explain that why i am coming back to india.so i think there is no way going back until you are forced to do that.i don't miss my family as i talk to them daily and i can ask them to travel here any time i want.its not 60s and 70s in which you have to think several times before visiting india.so my suggestion whatever the decision you make just belive in yourself.explore all the options before making any decision.
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ItIsNotFunny
07-06 09:33 AM
Why does the line on top of this page say
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Goal amount for this month: 10000 USD, Received: 0 USD (0%)
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I guess, last month is about $2500, and previous month is less than $2K.
Any plans in your mind how to get every member pay $1 every month?
I gave my opinion on this in past. As we are dealing "very intelligent" community, need straight forward agenda to collect donation. Vague ideas don't work for collecting donation in our community. Pappu took a nice initiative and published 5 high level agenda items. Lets analyze how much money each agenda will need and we can move forward from there.
****
Goal amount for this month: 10000 USD, Received: 0 USD (0%)
****
I guess, last month is about $2500, and previous month is less than $2K.
Any plans in your mind how to get every member pay $1 every month?
I gave my opinion on this in past. As we are dealing "very intelligent" community, need straight forward agenda to collect donation. Vague ideas don't work for collecting donation in our community. Pappu took a nice initiative and published 5 high level agenda items. Lets analyze how much money each agenda will need and we can move forward from there.
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dan19
05-25 01:09 PM
PD : Sep 2002 (RIR)
45 Day letter: Dec 2004 (After that no news)
I had 2 queries when the case was pending with the state labour office before being shipped to BEC.
The issues were related to low wages and insufficient experience. The company fixed the issues and ammended the Labour petition.
Will that cause a problem when it comes to the approval stage? Again, will that negatively affect I-140?
45 Day letter: Dec 2004 (After that no news)
I had 2 queries when the case was pending with the state labour office before being shipped to BEC.
The issues were related to low wages and insufficient experience. The company fixed the issues and ammended the Labour petition.
Will that cause a problem when it comes to the approval stage? Again, will that negatively affect I-140?
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vjpmusa
07-15 06:37 PM
Done,
$5 for each family member. Thanks
Immigration Voice IV::$15.00::07/21/2008::7YFTT-Q6LM2::High5 donation vjpmusa
$5 for each family member. Thanks
Immigration Voice IV::$15.00::07/21/2008::7YFTT-Q6LM2::High5 donation vjpmusa
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AllVNeedGcPc
05-20 09:08 PM
...Thanks God
Enjoy these moments.
Here's my journey so far.
0. Arrival - 1999
1. Initial labor
a. Filed - July 19th 2003 (4 years BE Software Engineering and 2 years Masters Computer Science in US) Filed as Software Engineer
b. Approved - June 2006, but BEC put NOC as Mechanical Engineer. Took a year to get it fixed back to Software Engineer
2. EB3 I140 (NSC)
a. Filed - July 2nd 2007
b. Approved - 2008
3. I485 (NSC)
a. Filed - July 2nd 2007
b. RFE - April 2009 (EVL for me and visa history for my wife)
4. Perm
a. Same Fortune 500 company for 10 years (By 2010, was promoted multiple times and moved to a different role)
b. Filed - Oct 2010 (No experience used only MS)
c. Approved - Dec 2011
5. EB2 I140 (TSC)
a. Filed - Jan 2011, Premium Processing
b. Approved - Jan 2011 (original A# and Priority Date retained)
6. Interfiling
a. Feb 2011 - Created a SR requesting the status of I485. Got a reply saying the category my 485 was applied is not current yet
b. Feb 2011 - Lawyer said that as my old A# and PD was already used on new 140, so that means that it has automatically been interfiled, now we do not need to do anything. But said will still send a reminder
c. March 2011 - Went for an Infopass Appointment (Useless in my opinion too) They said as your 140 is in TSC and 485 is in NSC that is why its taking time and they don't know how much more time will it take
d. April 2011 - Contacted Senator and got a reply that they have contacted NSC and will let us know their response as soon as they get one
e. Late April 2011 - Sent emails to NSC update, TSC update and TSC auto-current-date address
f. Early May 2011 - Contacted Congressman
6. Approval - Occurred the evening Congressman called NSC
a. Mid May 2011 - CPO email and cards within a week
Enjoy these moments.
Here's my journey so far.
0. Arrival - 1999
1. Initial labor
a. Filed - July 19th 2003 (4 years BE Software Engineering and 2 years Masters Computer Science in US) Filed as Software Engineer
b. Approved - June 2006, but BEC put NOC as Mechanical Engineer. Took a year to get it fixed back to Software Engineer
2. EB3 I140 (NSC)
a. Filed - July 2nd 2007
b. Approved - 2008
3. I485 (NSC)
a. Filed - July 2nd 2007
b. RFE - April 2009 (EVL for me and visa history for my wife)
4. Perm
a. Same Fortune 500 company for 10 years (By 2010, was promoted multiple times and moved to a different role)
b. Filed - Oct 2010 (No experience used only MS)
c. Approved - Dec 2011
5. EB2 I140 (TSC)
a. Filed - Jan 2011, Premium Processing
b. Approved - Jan 2011 (original A# and Priority Date retained)
6. Interfiling
a. Feb 2011 - Created a SR requesting the status of I485. Got a reply saying the category my 485 was applied is not current yet
b. Feb 2011 - Lawyer said that as my old A# and PD was already used on new 140, so that means that it has automatically been interfiled, now we do not need to do anything. But said will still send a reminder
c. March 2011 - Went for an Infopass Appointment (Useless in my opinion too) They said as your 140 is in TSC and 485 is in NSC that is why its taking time and they don't know how much more time will it take
d. April 2011 - Contacted Senator and got a reply that they have contacted NSC and will let us know their response as soon as they get one
e. Late April 2011 - Sent emails to NSC update, TSC update and TSC auto-current-date address
f. Early May 2011 - Contacted Congressman
6. Approval - Occurred the evening Congressman called NSC
a. Mid May 2011 - CPO email and cards within a week
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meridiani.planum
02-23 11:45 PM
Progress of PDs are similar the ones which happened prior to June 2007. May be there is a chance of repeating that now......
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Past_Visa_Bulletin_Data
interesting data. thanks to whoever put it up.
So if the pattern of last 2 years also holds this year, there will be slow month or 2 month movement until the last quarter (july/aug/sept) and then boom-bada-boom massive movement of maybe a couple of years. In that last quarter its all hit or miss, some 20-30% of people who get current will get GC (like what happened last year) then again back to 1 year of creep and crawl... hopefully by then we get some form of immigration legislation to clear this backlog.
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Past_Visa_Bulletin_Data
interesting data. thanks to whoever put it up.
So if the pattern of last 2 years also holds this year, there will be slow month or 2 month movement until the last quarter (july/aug/sept) and then boom-bada-boom massive movement of maybe a couple of years. In that last quarter its all hit or miss, some 20-30% of people who get current will get GC (like what happened last year) then again back to 1 year of creep and crawl... hopefully by then we get some form of immigration legislation to clear this backlog.
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alterego
09-11 11:54 PM
Dear XXXX,
The issue of comprehensive immigration reform has received widespread coverage in the media over the last few months.
The issue of legal immigration, though a part of the CIR was less controversial and therefore sadly received less coverage.
Legal employment based immigration represents just 14% of all legal immigration and comprises mostly of high demand skills such as scientists, doctors, engineers, and other such occupations which in addition to filling an unmet need, creates further employment opportunities in the US economy. These are also the occupations that represent the most vital human capital of the 21st century for US economic competitiveness. Many of these people are US educated atleast in part and are currently gainfully employed and contributing to this vibrant economy.
Unfortunately the current immigration policy is doing a great injustice to this group of individuals who have quietly and patiently been waiting their turn. Many have waited 5-10 yrs and are still awaiting their green cards. The current backlogs are ominous.
Many have organized into a grassroots organization called Immigration Voice and are planning a pro legal employment based immigration rally in Washington DC on Sep't 18th. We would appreciate coverage of this first of a kind event which puts the spotlight on a just cause which for far too long has gone ignored by our lawmakers.
The issue of comprehensive immigration reform has received widespread coverage in the media over the last few months.
The issue of legal immigration, though a part of the CIR was less controversial and therefore sadly received less coverage.
Legal employment based immigration represents just 14% of all legal immigration and comprises mostly of high demand skills such as scientists, doctors, engineers, and other such occupations which in addition to filling an unmet need, creates further employment opportunities in the US economy. These are also the occupations that represent the most vital human capital of the 21st century for US economic competitiveness. Many of these people are US educated atleast in part and are currently gainfully employed and contributing to this vibrant economy.
Unfortunately the current immigration policy is doing a great injustice to this group of individuals who have quietly and patiently been waiting their turn. Many have waited 5-10 yrs and are still awaiting their green cards. The current backlogs are ominous.
Many have organized into a grassroots organization called Immigration Voice and are planning a pro legal employment based immigration rally in Washington DC on Sep't 18th. We would appreciate coverage of this first of a kind event which puts the spotlight on a just cause which for far too long has gone ignored by our lawmakers.
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satyasaich
07-15 01:10 PM
Here is my pledge.
If $2000 is reached today, i will send another $50 today.
(Fyi, i've already sent$50 yesterday)
Satya
Thanks SkilledWorker4GC !
Any one else would like to pledge just 5 $ when we reach 2000 $
Bestofall
PD March 2005 India
485 Applied Jul2 2007
If $2000 is reached today, i will send another $50 today.
(Fyi, i've already sent$50 yesterday)
Satya
Thanks SkilledWorker4GC !
Any one else would like to pledge just 5 $ when we reach 2000 $
Bestofall
PD March 2005 India
485 Applied Jul2 2007
billu
09-04 08:33 AM
I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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great analysis of the GC queue. Those who missed the july 2007 boat (despite working here)or those who started GC 2-3 years after starting a job have themselves to blame. I am one of them. Also, I have several friends who are working on h1b with ridiculous contracts with no sign of GC being filed. They are blissfully ignorant of the GC mess despite my warnings. Each year thousands of students still come from India on F1 and most of them later file h1b and GC. I wish they were made aware of this mess. Most of us have the famous "chalta hai" attitude of india that smirks of no farsightedness or pre-planning due to which we are in this mess, especially folks on EB3.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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great analysis of the GC queue. Those who missed the july 2007 boat (despite working here)or those who started GC 2-3 years after starting a job have themselves to blame. I am one of them. Also, I have several friends who are working on h1b with ridiculous contracts with no sign of GC being filed. They are blissfully ignorant of the GC mess despite my warnings. Each year thousands of students still come from India on F1 and most of them later file h1b and GC. I wish they were made aware of this mess. Most of us have the famous "chalta hai" attitude of india that smirks of no farsightedness or pre-planning due to which we are in this mess, especially folks on EB3.
gc28262
08-23 10:28 AM
My friend EB2 is all ONE category. Please see the OR in that sentence.
to qualified immigrants who are members of the professions holding advanced degrees or their equivalent or who because of their exceptional ability in the sciences, arts, or business, will substantially benefit prospectively the national economy, cultural or educational interests, or welfare of the United States, an d whose services in the sciences, arts, professions, or business are sought by an employer in the United States.
Its sad but its going to apply for all EB2 applicants.
That is my exact point. Please note the "or" in that paragraph.
A person can qualify for EB2 for different reasons. That is what that "or" denotes. Most of the EB2 filers don't file under "exceptional ability" category, they file under "advanced degree or equivalent".
to qualified immigrants who are members of the professions holding advanced degrees or their equivalent or who because of their exceptional ability in the sciences, arts, or business, will substantially benefit prospectively the national economy, cultural or educational interests, or welfare of the United States, an d whose services in the sciences, arts, professions, or business are sought by an employer in the United States.
Its sad but its going to apply for all EB2 applicants.
That is my exact point. Please note the "or" in that paragraph.
A person can qualify for EB2 for different reasons. That is what that "or" denotes. Most of the EB2 filers don't file under "exceptional ability" category, they file under "advanced degree or equivalent".
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