singhsa3
09-12 10:10 AM
Hi Bawa,
Your idea is good to but please be also open to other ideas. You don't know what will fail or pass. The prime objective is to attract media attention, in other words "give them something to talk about". What flower campaing did last year was exactly that...Can we achieve the same thing with Book or Calculators or Clock or Poster, we need to figure that out!
I agree that calculator /flower campaign can fail. But poster (actually pamphlet) and letter campaign will cost only 41 cents stamp from us.
Your idea is good to but please be also open to other ideas. You don't know what will fail or pass. The prime objective is to attract media attention, in other words "give them something to talk about". What flower campaing did last year was exactly that...Can we achieve the same thing with Book or Calculators or Clock or Poster, we need to figure that out!
I agree that calculator /flower campaign can fail. But poster (actually pamphlet) and letter campaign will cost only 41 cents stamp from us.
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Mygr8life
12-18 02:02 PM
I think they will apply spillover only in the last quarter (July-sept 2010). Nothing will happen till July. And even in the last quarter, significant jump would be only in sept.
Kondur...My gut says you are probably right that "they will apply spillover only in the last quarter" but the INA law says "quarterly...". So if "by law" if they are required to utilize the quarterly quota by Dec 2009, how many estimated #s are we talking? Is the estimated spillover visas couple of hundred or 1000 or 10,000-15,000???
Can someone answer the following (I understand IV has crunched the numbers and have predicted dates, but it would also be helpful to see these translated into #s): Does anyone wanna take a shot at crunching the above #s?
Between Oct2009 to Dec2009 (1st quarter):
1. How many total employment visas (is it be 140,000/4) are available per quarter?
2. How many total EB1+EB2Row pending applications?
3. Now the big assumption, How many of these have been adjudicated or have been alloted a visa # or could potentially use a visa #? (gurus...make some assumption).
4. So this current quarter how many visa #s are leftover for spillover to EB2-nonRow? (theortically should/could be or must be/allocated or "used up" by Dec2009, i.e. within the next 13 days)?
So in plain english: The answer could be as simple as "This quarter, which ends on Dec31, 2009, there could be .... visas available for spillover".
This might be unreasonable to expect but could be useful information...Whether spillover happens this quarter or not? thats a different story:confused:
Thanks.
Kondur...My gut says you are probably right that "they will apply spillover only in the last quarter" but the INA law says "quarterly...". So if "by law" if they are required to utilize the quarterly quota by Dec 2009, how many estimated #s are we talking? Is the estimated spillover visas couple of hundred or 1000 or 10,000-15,000???
Can someone answer the following (I understand IV has crunched the numbers and have predicted dates, but it would also be helpful to see these translated into #s): Does anyone wanna take a shot at crunching the above #s?
Between Oct2009 to Dec2009 (1st quarter):
1. How many total employment visas (is it be 140,000/4) are available per quarter?
2. How many total EB1+EB2Row pending applications?
3. Now the big assumption, How many of these have been adjudicated or have been alloted a visa # or could potentially use a visa #? (gurus...make some assumption).
4. So this current quarter how many visa #s are leftover for spillover to EB2-nonRow? (theortically should/could be or must be/allocated or "used up" by Dec2009, i.e. within the next 13 days)?
So in plain english: The answer could be as simple as "This quarter, which ends on Dec31, 2009, there could be .... visas available for spillover".
This might be unreasonable to expect but could be useful information...Whether spillover happens this quarter or not? thats a different story:confused:
Thanks.
r_mistry
01-03 12:05 PM
If they are processing september 16th then we should have received our APs long time ago.
Please provide me the info on contacting NSC. I need to find out what's going on with my application
Thanks for your help !!!
Please provide me the info on contacting NSC. I need to find out what's going on with my application
Thanks for your help !!!
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r_mistry
01-03 11:58 AM
Can anyone tell me how to contact NSC for my AP status? Sorry if this info was already posted but would appreciate if somebody who has contacted NSC regarding AP status provide me the number to contact them.
Many thanks.
Many thanks.
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pappu
12-11 12:16 AM
It looks like they have heard from IV members about the spillover rules and their clarification about the QUARTERLY spillover is useful. Also them categorically stating that any spillover visas would be used in strict order of PD is reassuring. Whether they actually practice or not, it is good that they have gone on record as saying that is the way it should be.
In the past spillover was not applied in the way they are saying and EB2I suffered greatly for it.
This spillover rules if enforced will accelerate EE2I movement initially and then EB3. I suspect that by this summer EB2I folks from 2007 should be seeing some action.
I agree. It was interesting to see them use our style of predicting with and without spillover. It seems they have paid attention to the recent report we had published. We should continue to ask questions and provide suggestions to the administration officials.
In the past spillover was not applied in the way they are saying and EB2I suffered greatly for it.
This spillover rules if enforced will accelerate EE2I movement initially and then EB3. I suspect that by this summer EB2I folks from 2007 should be seeing some action.
I agree. It was interesting to see them use our style of predicting with and without spillover. It seems they have paid attention to the recent report we had published. We should continue to ask questions and provide suggestions to the administration officials.
rajuram
12-18 02:25 PM
has any publicity we have recd so far in the press (not on anti-immig websites, which are visited only by anti-immigs) been in any way negative? no.
why? because there is nothing negative to say.
on the contrary, many people are discovering that their misperceptions aboutu legal immigs are wrong, and that before CIR the legal system needs to be fixed first.
I agree that our tone should not be negative, maybe not call it a boycott, but show them that we are protesting in a big and united way.
We have to differentiate ourselves from the illegals. Let the illegals do Rallies, Huger strikes etc.
why? because there is nothing negative to say.
on the contrary, many people are discovering that their misperceptions aboutu legal immigs are wrong, and that before CIR the legal system needs to be fixed first.
I agree that our tone should not be negative, maybe not call it a boycott, but show them that we are protesting in a big and united way.
We have to differentiate ourselves from the illegals. Let the illegals do Rallies, Huger strikes etc.
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vdlrao
06-10 10:56 AM
The July 2008 Visa Bulletin has said Exactly the same, but in different words, what I have been saying for the past few months about the EB2-India and EB3-India Movements.
EB2 India will move very fast till 01 JAN 06 as because based on June 2007 bulletin, just before the july fiasco,( http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html ) the PD for China is 01 JAN 06. That means in EB2 Category except India and China every other country is current. So till India reaches 01 JAN 06 PD in EB2, all the spill overs will be moved to EB2 India,because the spill overs will be alloted based on the priority of old PD(Priority Date). By the time India EB2 reaches 01 JAN 06, China PD in EB2 will move further from 01 JAN 06 by using its 7% quota. So Inidia PD for EB2 again moves fast till that changed China PD using the spill overs. After that India and China will share the spill overs based on the PD priority. All this happens if and only if the USCIS works effectively and uses all the available visa numbers for the present fiscal year. My prediction for EB2 India PD is it touch 2005 /even cross few months in 2005 by the end of this year if USCIS works effectively.
For all Eb3s along with EB2s with PD after April 2005, the movement in the coming visa bulletins wont be much encoraging unless the new Obama government does something significant about employent based category or immigrationvoice does a fruitful lobbying. The doings of something by obama government to employment based category is not in our hands. The only thing we could do is to help IV and help ourrselves by contributing to it to reach its financial target for better lobbying. Or else wait for the Visa Bulletin every month with great hopes, sorry dreams, for your PD to become current, and satisfy with your EADs for years ahead.
EB2 India will move very fast till 01 JAN 06 as because based on June 2007 bulletin, just before the july fiasco,( http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html ) the PD for China is 01 JAN 06. That means in EB2 Category except India and China every other country is current. So till India reaches 01 JAN 06 PD in EB2, all the spill overs will be moved to EB2 India,because the spill overs will be alloted based on the priority of old PD(Priority Date). By the time India EB2 reaches 01 JAN 06, China PD in EB2 will move further from 01 JAN 06 by using its 7% quota. So Inidia PD for EB2 again moves fast till that changed China PD using the spill overs. After that India and China will share the spill overs based on the PD priority. All this happens if and only if the USCIS works effectively and uses all the available visa numbers for the present fiscal year. My prediction for EB2 India PD is it touch 2005 /even cross few months in 2005 by the end of this year if USCIS works effectively.
For all Eb3s along with EB2s with PD after April 2005, the movement in the coming visa bulletins wont be much encoraging unless the new Obama government does something significant about employent based category or immigrationvoice does a fruitful lobbying. The doings of something by obama government to employment based category is not in our hands. The only thing we could do is to help IV and help ourrselves by contributing to it to reach its financial target for better lobbying. Or else wait for the Visa Bulletin every month with great hopes, sorry dreams, for your PD to become current, and satisfy with your EADs for years ahead.
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chanduv23
07-11 12:22 PM
employer can withdraw the 140 any time before the approval of 485 - there is no time limit.
That is right. But one MUST NOT worry about it as long as they have a job in hand with same or similar duties. Things to watch out are
(1) AC21 letter
(2) G28 properly filed
(3) NOID
(4) Denial - happened in some cases and reopened through MTR
Now even if your old employer did not revoke 140 you may get an RFE.
That is right. But one MUST NOT worry about it as long as they have a job in hand with same or similar duties. Things to watch out are
(1) AC21 letter
(2) G28 properly filed
(3) NOID
(4) Denial - happened in some cases and reopened through MTR
Now even if your old employer did not revoke 140 you may get an RFE.
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greenisgood
12-11 03:58 PM
We all are in the same boat. I hate doing the same things that I am doing since last 9 years.... Need to move on ... Hey but wait.. your PD is not current..! Duh..
Willing to contribute big time if IV can make this part of its agenda.
Willing to contribute big time if IV can make this part of its agenda.
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alterego
07-11 08:49 AM
This is good news all around. It gives EB2 I an obvious benefit. However EB3 can take consolation in knowing that all EB2 is closer to C, and then spillover can start. Obviously EB3 ROW will get the spillover first, but then it will be EB3I. A visa recapture would be so great now.
Now perhaps RD matters if you are EB2 I.
This is just a hunch, however I think you will see a rash of EB2 India approval in the coming couple of months. I have seen a lot of LUDs and RFEs and the like on EB2I cased over the past month or two, and a lot of this seems as if they were pre-adjudicating, while in discussions to move the dates with the state dept.
A few lucky people from the July filers will get their green cards from this, but most may have to wait a while. They have not processed many of them.
Now perhaps RD matters if you are EB2 I.
This is just a hunch, however I think you will see a rash of EB2 India approval in the coming couple of months. I have seen a lot of LUDs and RFEs and the like on EB2I cased over the past month or two, and a lot of this seems as if they were pre-adjudicating, while in discussions to move the dates with the state dept.
A few lucky people from the July filers will get their green cards from this, but most may have to wait a while. They have not processed many of them.
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ags123
03-07 02:07 PM
Thanks Trueguy, I hadnt counted for the full financial year but had taken a small sample.
The only things which give me hope on Eb2 I are:
a) Eb2 I has always consistently moved forward but last year they had keep moving it backward in the first 6 months
b)Even then in Apr 2008 Eb2 I recovered from U to Dec 03
c) In Jul 08 and Aug 08 Eb3 ROW became U but Eb2 I increased all the way to mid 06
Assuming they use up all the numbers this year i just cant see how Eb2 I can retrogress.
(Big Assumption)
The only things which give me hope on Eb2 I are:
a) Eb2 I has always consistently moved forward but last year they had keep moving it backward in the first 6 months
b)Even then in Apr 2008 Eb2 I recovered from U to Dec 03
c) In Jul 08 and Aug 08 Eb3 ROW became U but Eb2 I increased all the way to mid 06
Assuming they use up all the numbers this year i just cant see how Eb2 I can retrogress.
(Big Assumption)
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vkotval
07-17 11:59 PM
What is this Receipt date? Is it the date when your AOS petition reaches USCIS?
Receipt date is not the date when the application reaches the service center. It is infact the date when your application is entered into their internal system which could be several days after the application has reached the service center.
Receipt date is not the date when the application reaches the service center. It is infact the date when your application is entered into their internal system which could be several days after the application has reached the service center.
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priti8888,
That is not true. Receipt Date is when the service center physically receives the package. They date stamp it and then use it to enter that RD when they generate the Notice on the ND.
What you see on the status page for sure reflects the ND and NOT the RD. So you can pretty much ignore what the status page says and rely on what your physical notice says (it states the actual RD when they physically received the package!)
Hope this is a clear explanation.
RECIPT DATE is the date when they input your info in the system. Before inputting in the system they check I140,medicals,etc. Notice date has no bearing. If your packet looks fine you get your receipt number and then you will be able to view the status on uscis.gov. The status will be something like "On july 9th 2007 we received your applivction ..............etc"
"Status :case received and pending"
That is not true. Receipt Date is when the service center physically receives the package. They date stamp it and then use it to enter that RD when they generate the Notice on the ND.
What you see on the status page for sure reflects the ND and NOT the RD. So you can pretty much ignore what the status page says and rely on what your physical notice says (it states the actual RD when they physically received the package!)
Hope this is a clear explanation.
RECIPT DATE is the date when they input your info in the system. Before inputting in the system they check I140,medicals,etc. Notice date has no bearing. If your packet looks fine you get your receipt number and then you will be able to view the status on uscis.gov. The status will be something like "On july 9th 2007 we received your applivction ..............etc"
"Status :case received and pending"
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bomber
07-20 01:16 PM
I think you can also switch using your H1-B. You can still invoke Ac21 on H1-B, just that EAD makes it easier to find new employers.
moreover, you will now have to spend approx 4K on H1 renewals every year.
I can see how it will affect many people's (including mine) spouses job prospects.
Assuming it takes longer than 12 months, what are the options here? I would like to understand what AC21 says. Is having an EAD a precondition of using the AC21 provision i.e. does it say -
"an employee after 6 months of filing 485 AND having an EAD in hand can switch jobs"
or does it say
"6 months after filing 485, the employee can switch"
thanks
moreover, you will now have to spend approx 4K on H1 renewals every year.
I can see how it will affect many people's (including mine) spouses job prospects.
Assuming it takes longer than 12 months, what are the options here? I would like to understand what AC21 says. Is having an EAD a precondition of using the AC21 provision i.e. does it say -
"an employee after 6 months of filing 485 AND having an EAD in hand can switch jobs"
or does it say
"6 months after filing 485, the employee can switch"
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07-23 12:42 PM
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maddipati1
11-21 04:00 PM
But.. when AOS(485) is denied, won't the underlying 140 and for that matter labor is also denied?
I think you are wrong ( I just think)
H1b and AOS are two differnt things and are not coupled. A yearly h1b extension beyond 6 years is given if you have a Labor pending for more than an year or pending 140 more than one year and a 3 year h1b extension is granted if you have an approved 140.
So the basis of getting a h1b extension or transfer is 140 and not AOS. One may not have even applied for AOS but can get h1 extensions as long as the above conditions are satisfied.
This is based on what I know. Thats why Attorneys prefer h1b compared to EAd because h1b essentially gives time for you to change jobs/apply for new GC petition in case existing petition has tons of issues etc...
I think you are wrong ( I just think)
H1b and AOS are two differnt things and are not coupled. A yearly h1b extension beyond 6 years is given if you have a Labor pending for more than an year or pending 140 more than one year and a 3 year h1b extension is granted if you have an approved 140.
So the basis of getting a h1b extension or transfer is 140 and not AOS. One may not have even applied for AOS but can get h1 extensions as long as the above conditions are satisfied.
This is based on what I know. Thats why Attorneys prefer h1b compared to EAd because h1b essentially gives time for you to change jobs/apply for new GC petition in case existing petition has tons of issues etc...
minimalist
08-18 02:20 PM
Please continue to post your comments on the letter - the sooner we can all agree upon the content, the sooner we can start sending these out.
Also, is there a possibility of having a common meeting (all retrogressed EB3 candidates) with Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren expressing our situation - just a thought.
Can't we request this info under Freedom of Information Act?
Also, is there a possibility of having a common meeting (all retrogressed EB3 candidates) with Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren expressing our situation - just a thought.
Can't we request this info under Freedom of Information Act?
hebron
10-29 08:56 AM
Hi Hebron,
I have filed EB2 & EB3 with the same company (As explained earlier). EB3 as Programmer Analyst and EB2 as Database Adminstrator ( MS + 2 yrs exp.). I think it is better to take some expert attorney advice on your case. It does not hurt if you consult ( or crosscheck ) with some other attorney about your case. Most of the legal experts charge around $250 to evaluate your case and suggest.
Best of Luck to you.
Thanks.
Hi 9Years,
Thanks for the information! I will consult a another attorney.
I was looking up the SOC job codes and I noticed is that in your case the SOC job codes are different. (Programmer Analyst 15-1021.00 and Database Administrator 15-1061.00.)
In my case both Software Engineer and Principal Software Engineer falls under the same SOC code.
This could be why my attorney thinks my case is not portable with the same employer.
I have filed EB2 & EB3 with the same company (As explained earlier). EB3 as Programmer Analyst and EB2 as Database Adminstrator ( MS + 2 yrs exp.). I think it is better to take some expert attorney advice on your case. It does not hurt if you consult ( or crosscheck ) with some other attorney about your case. Most of the legal experts charge around $250 to evaluate your case and suggest.
Best of Luck to you.
Thanks.
Hi 9Years,
Thanks for the information! I will consult a another attorney.
I was looking up the SOC job codes and I noticed is that in your case the SOC job codes are different. (Programmer Analyst 15-1021.00 and Database Administrator 15-1061.00.)
In my case both Software Engineer and Principal Software Engineer falls under the same SOC code.
This could be why my attorney thinks my case is not portable with the same employer.
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