planets
03-28 01:48 PM
Ha.....Ha......
wallpaper Map of the Roman Empire
pappu
06-26 09:53 AM
I know IV is doing its best and there are other groups fighting for HR 5882.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, of course)? What are they fighting for?
Here are some of my own personal thoughts:
How can one tell a percentage number for something to pass? What kind of data can we base our calculations on?
Who said EB3 India will not forward next year? Did DOS say that? An individual lawyer is not Dept. Of State. I would like to see a written proof from DOS saying this so that we can plan ahead.
There were many naysayers for the July 2007 bulletin. But IV was able to get it current again. So stop believing in predictions and believe in yourself.
I believe it is immigrants more than anyone who will benefit the most from the success of IV's efforts. Thus it is in our interest to make IV successful.
Everyone is free to take part in IV campaigns. Nobody is being 'exploited'. However, if we had a more massive effort for admin fixes, we could have seen better results. With only around 5K letters (and that too a lot of anonymous ones) you cannot expect something to happen quickly. If you are trying to convey a plight of hundreds of thousands that you need hundreds of thousands of letters.
Likewise if you need these bills to move, we cannot expect a couple hundred calls to bring a bill on the floor.
IV is IV members. It is what each IV member decides to do that decides the fate of any campaign. The contributions received during the campaign also decides how much we can invest in our lobbyists. During the past 2 months we were able to collect only $16656 (refer this thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18790)). You can do your math and figure how much we can lobby when we have opposition that can spend much more.
IV can be successful only when its members want it to be.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, of course)? What are they fighting for?
Here are some of my own personal thoughts:
How can one tell a percentage number for something to pass? What kind of data can we base our calculations on?
Who said EB3 India will not forward next year? Did DOS say that? An individual lawyer is not Dept. Of State. I would like to see a written proof from DOS saying this so that we can plan ahead.
There were many naysayers for the July 2007 bulletin. But IV was able to get it current again. So stop believing in predictions and believe in yourself.
I believe it is immigrants more than anyone who will benefit the most from the success of IV's efforts. Thus it is in our interest to make IV successful.
Everyone is free to take part in IV campaigns. Nobody is being 'exploited'. However, if we had a more massive effort for admin fixes, we could have seen better results. With only around 5K letters (and that too a lot of anonymous ones) you cannot expect something to happen quickly. If you are trying to convey a plight of hundreds of thousands that you need hundreds of thousands of letters.
Likewise if you need these bills to move, we cannot expect a couple hundred calls to bring a bill on the floor.
IV is IV members. It is what each IV member decides to do that decides the fate of any campaign. The contributions received during the campaign also decides how much we can invest in our lobbyists. During the past 2 months we were able to collect only $16656 (refer this thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18790)). You can do your math and figure how much we can lobby when we have opposition that can spend much more.
IV can be successful only when its members want it to be.
hopefulgc
07-18 10:57 PM
I have no idea how you guys can even generalize something like this.
IT is vast; the spectrum vertically ranging from Networking, to Programming to Front end design and horizontally ranging from web based apps to system apps to distributed apps to enterprise front-ends.
I have seen guys in our field come to work with double masters, 11 years of very relevant experience and still struggle to grasp the intricacies of what we do.
As they say, when you know too much it is then that you realize how less you know.
If you think your job (read coding "hello world" for clients) can be done by somebody with lesser qualifications, you/your employer has committed an immigration fraud.
even though I am in EB2..from my personal experience, the kind of IT contracts/jobs/assignments we (most of us) do, I dont think there is anything that an EB2 qualified can do which EB3 cannot do.
I saw threads (this site or elsewhere) where EB2 ppl felt superior and blasted the threads where EB3-EB2 conversions were discussed.
IMHO, I would always say, if it is legal and possible and beneficial, ppl should think of conversion.
IT is vast; the spectrum vertically ranging from Networking, to Programming to Front end design and horizontally ranging from web based apps to system apps to distributed apps to enterprise front-ends.
I have seen guys in our field come to work with double masters, 11 years of very relevant experience and still struggle to grasp the intricacies of what we do.
As they say, when you know too much it is then that you realize how less you know.
If you think your job (read coding "hello world" for clients) can be done by somebody with lesser qualifications, you/your employer has committed an immigration fraud.
even though I am in EB2..from my personal experience, the kind of IT contracts/jobs/assignments we (most of us) do, I dont think there is anything that an EB2 qualified can do which EB3 cannot do.
I saw threads (this site or elsewhere) where EB2 ppl felt superior and blasted the threads where EB3-EB2 conversions were discussed.
IMHO, I would always say, if it is legal and possible and beneficial, ppl should think of conversion.
2011 Map of Byzantine Empire
bigtime008
07-18 01:46 PM
I am also stuck in BEC, but I know IV has kept BEC victims in mind.
See the following links
Pappu
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6084
LogicLife
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=100024#post100024
Quote from LogicLife's post
'And finally, if you do rejoice at the revisions of July bulletin because that would somehow do justice to you and your other BEC brothers, please rejoice privately, not publicly. Rejoice all you want, if that's what gives you happiness, but send PMs to your BEC friends or do it over the phone. Have a barbeque at your home. Have a conference call and celebrate. '
If all others can rejoice the open of visa filing at our expense publicly, why couldn't we rejoice something that'd bring fairness? Why don't they rejoince in private? You think they have us in mind? I call that BS.
See the following links
Pappu
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6084
LogicLife
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=100024#post100024
Quote from LogicLife's post
'And finally, if you do rejoice at the revisions of July bulletin because that would somehow do justice to you and your other BEC brothers, please rejoice privately, not publicly. Rejoice all you want, if that's what gives you happiness, but send PMs to your BEC friends or do it over the phone. Have a barbeque at your home. Have a conference call and celebrate. '
If all others can rejoice the open of visa filing at our expense publicly, why couldn't we rejoice something that'd bring fairness? Why don't they rejoince in private? You think they have us in mind? I call that BS.
more...
gc_aspirant_prasad
09-19 07:37 PM
Well said LogicLife!
Folks let us continue the momentum with good advice & coordination from IV core.
Folks let us continue the momentum with good advice & coordination from IV core.
Jaime
09-06 01:13 PM
Please let us know! We will help you in any way!
more...
eager_immi
07-17 10:31 PM
First of let me tell you life is not fair. All BEC people everyone in this forum empathizes with you esp me since my husband is also a victm, even if they say u should have filed in PERM. I know for a lot of folks this was not a choice for you to make sometimes it is the company, lawyer, ur job situation that is the determining factor. So, please hang in there and contribute without bad mouthing IV. Maybe some of you should become a part of the core and fight for ur rights. The reason I say life is not fair bc people like my husband and I we are not in IT or work for IT consulting companies yet this whole backlog is created bc of that particular industry and abuses to the H1B system and we still suffer. Also, what happens when u work for huge companies that usually don't hire h1b but once they made the step they don't want to loose you since you are an investment for them and hence the wait 5 years to file ur GC. Again life is not fair when the business needs you to move to a different position, or downsizes and you have to start from scratch all over again. Both my husband and I are here for 10 years and are on our 8th year of H1 and this is the first time for me to file 485 with 2006 PD and his labor still has to be filed yet again in Perm. My point life is not fair but you cannot blame others. Very few people are lucky and get GC in a year or year half. If you look most people had some struggle some worse than others. Just be grateful that someone is ready to atleast listen to you and help you fight this long battle.
2010 Map of the Roman Republic#39;s
iol_joh
11-15 06:45 PM
Ok. Visa bulletin for December gets published. We are all shocked or surprised by the cut off dates. So, we decide to bash USCIS, run all possible permutations on visa numbers (how many different ways are we going to continue analyzing 140,000 visas), some have even proposed fasting and there are some who are threatening to move to Canada or India (I am not sure who is stopping them).
Let us analyze all the proposed solutions and see if they will really get us anywhere:
1. Bash USCIS: I am not sure if anyone at USCIS or the administration would care. You can stand at the top of Washington Monument and scream and not a single soul will care.
2. Analysis/Paralysis of available visa numbers and the possible movements: USCIS, the department that has access to all the required data is struggling to forecast visa availability, but, I see my friends here with very limited access to data trying to forecast Visa movement. I can bet, even with all the smart PHD�s here that we will not be able to forecast visa availability even, if we built the most complex model and continue to have limited access to data. So, this is just an exercise in futility.
3. Fasting in front of Governor�s office: Great idea! We can work off all the excess weight that we may have put on that we have gained due to over eating (one of the symptoms of stress or depression). I think we are choosing the wrong time of the year to do this. It is cold outside and I am not sure if anyone would even stop by the poor souls to pour us a hot cup of coffee. However, we may gain some publicity. Better than idea 1 and 2.
4. Moving to Canada or India: Please do and USCIS will be glad that they have one less case file to deal with and Numbers USA or Lou Dobbs will pay for the ticket.
Unless we stop these frivolous discussions over pathetic suggestions to fix the problem we will continue ignoring real solutions.
We need to think and execute with a sound long term strategy (12-18 months). Let us not try to eat the elephant in one bite. Let us fix this problem with small, manageable and doable steps.
I hope I do not offend anyone. I think it is time to be serious about the road we take from here.
Let us analyze all the proposed solutions and see if they will really get us anywhere:
1. Bash USCIS: I am not sure if anyone at USCIS or the administration would care. You can stand at the top of Washington Monument and scream and not a single soul will care.
2. Analysis/Paralysis of available visa numbers and the possible movements: USCIS, the department that has access to all the required data is struggling to forecast visa availability, but, I see my friends here with very limited access to data trying to forecast Visa movement. I can bet, even with all the smart PHD�s here that we will not be able to forecast visa availability even, if we built the most complex model and continue to have limited access to data. So, this is just an exercise in futility.
3. Fasting in front of Governor�s office: Great idea! We can work off all the excess weight that we may have put on that we have gained due to over eating (one of the symptoms of stress or depression). I think we are choosing the wrong time of the year to do this. It is cold outside and I am not sure if anyone would even stop by the poor souls to pour us a hot cup of coffee. However, we may gain some publicity. Better than idea 1 and 2.
4. Moving to Canada or India: Please do and USCIS will be glad that they have one less case file to deal with and Numbers USA or Lou Dobbs will pay for the ticket.
Unless we stop these frivolous discussions over pathetic suggestions to fix the problem we will continue ignoring real solutions.
We need to think and execute with a sound long term strategy (12-18 months). Let us not try to eat the elephant in one bite. Let us fix this problem with small, manageable and doable steps.
I hope I do not offend anyone. I think it is time to be serious about the road we take from here.
more...
jayakesh
09-30 10:48 AM
I too had very bad experience with Air India, the aircrafts are in bad shape, very poor customer service. I stopped taking Air India after couple of bad experience. I take Jet Airways now, they are pretty good, friendly hostess and good customer service.
hair Map: Roman Empire 100AD
needhelp!
06-23 03:06 PM
That is great and is exactly what the doctor prescribed. Lets try and get the Congressman to make a positive decision. Every call counts!
I just called and spoke to a staff member at Lamar Smith's office. Apparently a lot of calls are being made :D. She knew why I was calling before I could tell her. I was told that the Rep. has not made a public stand on these bills yet. I told her that I would like the Representative to support these bills if and when they come to the floor.
Keep calling, guys!.
I just called and spoke to a staff member at Lamar Smith's office. Apparently a lot of calls are being made :D. She knew why I was calling before I could tell her. I was told that the Rep. has not made a public stand on these bills yet. I told her that I would like the Representative to support these bills if and when they come to the floor.
Keep calling, guys!.
more...
alterego
09-27 09:13 PM
A good attorney should be able to get those who availed themselves of the AC21 opportunity free and clear in their green card journey. The law seems pretty clear on this to me.
This is clearly a big deal for much of the IV community, who are stuck in this process due to inadequate EB visas and inefficient immigration service center processing.
I believe this might end up needing a class action litigation (for violating AC21 law) and an immigration attorney could make a name for him/herself in the process of this case!
Witness Carl Shusterman's challenge of the USCIS's erroneous interpretation of physician NIW laws and his subsequent stature in the field.
If there are adequate numbers of you, which based on this thread there seem to be quite a few, then approaching a good lawyer to represent the group pro bono and getting this mess sorted out for good might be a consideration.
Any thoughts?
This is clearly a big deal for much of the IV community, who are stuck in this process due to inadequate EB visas and inefficient immigration service center processing.
I believe this might end up needing a class action litigation (for violating AC21 law) and an immigration attorney could make a name for him/herself in the process of this case!
Witness Carl Shusterman's challenge of the USCIS's erroneous interpretation of physician NIW laws and his subsequent stature in the field.
If there are adequate numbers of you, which based on this thread there seem to be quite a few, then approaching a good lawyer to represent the group pro bono and getting this mess sorted out for good might be a consideration.
Any thoughts?
hot Large Map of Roman Empire
asdfred
07-14 05:07 PM
sometimes i see that no one will get a GC for 10 yrs..sometimes these calculations make me want to dream of getting a GC that too in next two years..i never noticed that i am over 30 now...thanks to immigration issues..:)
more...
house Map+of+ancient+rome+for+
willwin
06-26 08:38 AM
I know IV is doing its best and there are other groups fighting for HR 5882.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, ofcourse)? What are they fighting for?
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, ofcourse)? What are they fighting for?
tattoo the early empire to Rome
h4hopeful
04-06 10:17 AM
what I meant is the following. There have been for years visas for skilled employees, one is called L-1 and is when a person is transferred by its company, the spouse can work. the other one is H-1B hired by a US company, the spouse cannot work. Then now, they are about to legalize people who had been living illegaly in USA doing low skilled jobs, they will give them a low skilled requirement job visa, exactly as the H-1B and the L-1 only that the skills are low, and they will let their spouses work also, the only spouses of non permanent resident aliens with a valid working visa unauthorized to work will be the H-4s, and it is not fair.
more...
pictures The Tiber is the third-longest
BharatPremi
07-05 10:55 PM
Any good law-firms in the New York City area. My company should begin my EB3 filing early next year.
www.nallaseth.com
Do not judge from web site. Web site does not remain updated but I am satisfied with their services.
www.nallaseth.com
Do not judge from web site. Web site does not remain updated but I am satisfied with their services.
dresses The Roman Republic was the
posmd
07-01 08:36 AM
Very good news indeed.
In the US politics for some reason, certain issues seem to get clubbed together.
Sometimes it suits our purposes and at other times it is vexing. Clearly our issue of legal immigration does not create the type of backlash from conservative republicans that the issue of illegal immigration does. Hence when our circumstances necessitate that we have to try to board the CIR train to our goals I consider it unfortunate.
On the other hand when it comes to H1b immigration, every H1b increase has corresponded with some sort of provision(mainly recapture) of EB visas also. H1b increase has tremendous support and pressure from the powerful capitalist forces in this country. Just see how the Wall street Journal and Pres.Bush gives publicity to this issue. I doubt pure EB provisions can get that sort of visibility in spite of the tremendous work of organisations like IV.
In that sense the H1b cap being exhausted indirectly gives our issue more visibility and is a good development. Lets wait until the 20K US masters cap is also filled, then publicity will increase even more.
All in all it looks good that something will work for us by the end of this year. The pressure is building on congress to do something about EB immigration.
In the US politics for some reason, certain issues seem to get clubbed together.
Sometimes it suits our purposes and at other times it is vexing. Clearly our issue of legal immigration does not create the type of backlash from conservative republicans that the issue of illegal immigration does. Hence when our circumstances necessitate that we have to try to board the CIR train to our goals I consider it unfortunate.
On the other hand when it comes to H1b immigration, every H1b increase has corresponded with some sort of provision(mainly recapture) of EB visas also. H1b increase has tremendous support and pressure from the powerful capitalist forces in this country. Just see how the Wall street Journal and Pres.Bush gives publicity to this issue. I doubt pure EB provisions can get that sort of visibility in spite of the tremendous work of organisations like IV.
In that sense the H1b cap being exhausted indirectly gives our issue more visibility and is a good development. Lets wait until the 20K US masters cap is also filled, then publicity will increase even more.
All in all it looks good that something will work for us by the end of this year. The pressure is building on congress to do something about EB immigration.
more...
makeup Outline Maps. Roman Empire
thomachan72
06-09 02:46 PM
I replied to the EB3_Nepa's first post saying that we probably should support killing this bill and try to attach our amendments to other bills.
And then I saw posts from others saying there were 700000 faxes from anti immigrant groups to kill the bill. And we barely managed to send some 10000 to 20000.
Like someone else said we seem to fighting their huge swords with our toothpicks. With a member strength of 14000, we will not be able to fight their web fax camaigns with any bill this year (even appropriations bills etc.).
So I come to this conclusion (which IV pundits probably arrived at long back) - the only way we can fight the anti immigrants is by aggressive lobbying. We have only 14000 members, but we together can contribute like we are a 700000 membership. And then we could think about hiring more than one lobbying firm if that helps, otherwise apply more pressure through the one we currently use.
This is the only way, I feel we can get anything done this year, because increasing membership takes a longer time than raising funds, and we dont have time!!!!
I completely agree with you. We have not come all this way just to look up at the sky and say "Thank God, the CIR failed" OK. Dont know how many hours / money the core members could have put in in washington or otherwise regarding this bill. I firmly believe that failure of cloture of vote was part of the lobbying effort too. If eveyone wanted to just get this passed in the current form, then why did the vote fail? They know there needs to be key changes and thats what they will now work towards. Now neelu whether you are UGA / sharma's lab or not, I completely agree with you.
And then I saw posts from others saying there were 700000 faxes from anti immigrant groups to kill the bill. And we barely managed to send some 10000 to 20000.
Like someone else said we seem to fighting their huge swords with our toothpicks. With a member strength of 14000, we will not be able to fight their web fax camaigns with any bill this year (even appropriations bills etc.).
So I come to this conclusion (which IV pundits probably arrived at long back) - the only way we can fight the anti immigrants is by aggressive lobbying. We have only 14000 members, but we together can contribute like we are a 700000 membership. And then we could think about hiring more than one lobbying firm if that helps, otherwise apply more pressure through the one we currently use.
This is the only way, I feel we can get anything done this year, because increasing membership takes a longer time than raising funds, and we dont have time!!!!
I completely agree with you. We have not come all this way just to look up at the sky and say "Thank God, the CIR failed" OK. Dont know how many hours / money the core members could have put in in washington or otherwise regarding this bill. I firmly believe that failure of cloture of vote was part of the lobbying effort too. If eveyone wanted to just get this passed in the current form, then why did the vote fail? They know there needs to be key changes and thats what they will now work towards. Now neelu whether you are UGA / sharma's lab or not, I completely agree with you.
girlfriend Ancient Rome map
dsairam
08-17 01:30 PM
I saw lot of posts above saying good things about them however my experience with them has been bad. I am assumng this is Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy, LLP we are talking about.
There have been a couple things in the past but the most frustrating one was that even though I sent them all my papers etc. by Jun 20th (so that they can file it on July 2nd) they did not file my case until Aug 08. They are my corporate lawyers so I don't have any choice. Also, they asked us not to contact regarding status during this period as they were really busy. While not responding to status queries was understandable, they still took more than a month to file cases. I confirmed with a lot of my colleagues who were in the same boat and were equally frustrated with noncommunication and taking so long to file the cases. They also were not maintaining any apparent first come first serve queue because there were several folks who got their filings done much sooner than others who had sent complete paperworks way before them.
Based on my experience, I wouldn't recommend them.
There have been a couple things in the past but the most frustrating one was that even though I sent them all my papers etc. by Jun 20th (so that they can file it on July 2nd) they did not file my case until Aug 08. They are my corporate lawyers so I don't have any choice. Also, they asked us not to contact regarding status during this period as they were really busy. While not responding to status queries was understandable, they still took more than a month to file cases. I confirmed with a lot of my colleagues who were in the same boat and were equally frustrated with noncommunication and taking so long to file the cases. They also were not maintaining any apparent first come first serve queue because there were several folks who got their filings done much sooner than others who had sent complete paperworks way before them.
Based on my experience, I wouldn't recommend them.
hairstyles Roman Empire Map
jhaalaa
01-13 01:39 PM
desi9333 thanks for the link. Nice one - even though it covers only Hiring practices, and not opportunities for promotions and progression.
The "Opportunity" usage has been explained much beyond Hiring in the other laws and related documents. Hence, an employee who subsequently faces discrimination because he/she cannot progress or misses on job advancements due to Visa limit restrictions is certainly being discriminated against.
Its my view and others can differ. I respect all opinions and am thankful to all because it helps improve my reasoning, mutual respect and tolerance abilities.
Back to the subject,
My earlier post on first page this thread has some action items - can anyone here take the lead and convince an attorney to take up the cause?
My cheque shall be sent as soon as the ball gets rolling.
The "Opportunity" usage has been explained much beyond Hiring in the other laws and related documents. Hence, an employee who subsequently faces discrimination because he/she cannot progress or misses on job advancements due to Visa limit restrictions is certainly being discriminated against.
Its my view and others can differ. I respect all opinions and am thankful to all because it helps improve my reasoning, mutual respect and tolerance abilities.
Back to the subject,
My earlier post on first page this thread has some action items - can anyone here take the lead and convince an attorney to take up the cause?
My cheque shall be sent as soon as the ball gets rolling.
go_gc_way
07-17 04:10 PM
Folks here in this country should ofcourse get their gc, but I do not seem to understand this labour substitution for other than technical reasons.
JunRN
09-12 09:53 AM
USCIS is under DHS. DHS is under the President. The President has a lot to do with immigrants. He can tell DHS to make some administrative fixes to the immigration system.
Don't downplay the role of the President when it comes to immigration.
Don't downplay the role of the President when it comes to immigration.
No comments:
Post a Comment